Apr 20

When your computer is running a little bit slowly, how can you tell if getting more memory will help you? Here is a simple way to check whether all the memory you have in your computer is being used.

  1. Go to your utilities folder.
    (Click on your desktop anywhere so that the finder is active.
    Hold down apple-shift-U, this will open your ‘utilities folder.)
  2. Open ‘Activity Monitor’
  3. Press apple-1 so that the main window of Utility Monitor is open.
  4. Click on the ‘System Memory’ tab at the bottom of the window. This will display a little pie graph of how much memory you are currently using.

 
There are two important items to take note of ‘Free:’ and ‘Page outs:’

Free tells you how much free memory you currently have, the higher the better, and
Page outs tells you how many times your computer has had to slow down because it has run out of memory and needed to move some of it’s memory back to the hard disk temporarily to free up some space. (This would be the equivalent of your brain being too full so you have to write your thoughts down on paper to free up your headspace!) This really slows down your computer.

If the page out count is increasing as you watch it, this is not good, it means your computer has run out of free memory, and so temporarily is using the hard disk as memory. The faster the page out count is increasing, the worse the problem – your computer is struggling along and not performing as well as it could. You need more memory.

If you have had lots of free memory since the last time you restarted your machine, the Page outs count will be 0. This means your computer had enough memory and has not run out. You dont’ need more memory.

It may be that your Pagein/outs count is high, something like 50431/10850, but steady and this and not increasing. What this means is that some time in the past when you opened a lot of programs, you ran out of memory, but now you have enough. Reboot, check the Pagein/outs count again. It should be 0/0. If it is not 0/0, have a look at it while you open a program or two and see how fast it increases, the faster, the worse your system performance will be.

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Here is a screen shot of my computer. My page in/out count is quite high – 66825/697, but I still have 189 MB free, and the page in/out count is not increasing at the moment. This means that sometime since the last reboot, my computer ran out of memory, but currently it is OK. If I reboot the page in/out count will return to 0/0, and stay there unless I go crazy opening lots of programs. I don’t’ need more memory.

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To quote from apple:
Moving data from physical memory to disk is called paging out (or swapping out); moving data from disk to physical memory is called paging in (or swapping in)… Extended periods of paging activity reduce performance significantly; such activity is sometimes called disk thrashing.

One more note: Under Leopard rather than giving a ‘count’ of page in/outs, it gives a size in MB of the amount of RAM that has been pages in or out – the numbers are smaller but the same principals apply.

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26 Responses to “Does my mac need more memory?”

  1. wayne says:

    I just received this by email,
    look at how high the page in/out count it!

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    Time for memory upgrade!

    • HaWook says:

      My Page ins and Page outs are expressed in megabytes (960 and 325, respectively). How can I figure out the actual number?

      Please and thank you.

  2. Patrick says:

    I was googling around to see what excessive paging was as I was worried my mac was on the high side. After 1 day my Page in/outs are at 1376201/486790. Time for a MacPro since I’m already at the 2GB limit on my CD iMac. *Yikes*

  3. Brent says:

    Well my page ins/outs count is also very high along with having only 18MB of free memory. I had running Finder, Firefox, Microsoft Word, Preview, Safari, and Activity Monitor. I tried closing Word, Preview, and Safari and now it is up to around 180MB free. Now my question is this…lately I’ve been having slow-downs alot and my computer will freeze for a few seconds and I get the beachball. This happens even after a reboot with only Firefox (and sometimes one more program open). Should I get more memory? If so, how do I know what kind to get. I’m a newbie to the MacBook and OSX.

    Thanks!

  4. admin says:

    If it is slow straight after a reboot, and there are no page ins, and there is lots of free memory still, then the slow-down is probably not a memory problem, unless you have Leopard, it needs lots of memory, like 2 Gig at least.

  5. stuart says:

    Hello,

    I have also been noticing that my computer lately, slows down alot. Usually, I run Mail, iTunes, Safari, Newsfire, Adium and maybe sometimes transmission. I notice that my page in’s and out’s are quite high. Just yesterday it was the highest that I have ever seen. Today I rebooted and immediately after reboot my page ins were 45,023.

    I am at a loss on what to do. Alot of times my page outs exceed my page ins after a day of running.

    Please help

  6. stuart says:

    Hello again, I just wanted to give an update. I rebooted last night before I went to bed. Again right after start up I has an extreme amount of page in’s. Similar to my above comment. Now less the 16hrs later I now have this
    Swap 2.01GB(3.00GB)
    Page in: 157,558
    Page out: 273,764

    I really am having a hard time grasping what is actually wrong since I have not had this problem until just recently. My warranty is not yet finished for my iMac.

    Please help shed a light on this for me.

    Kind regards,

    Stuart

  7. Drew says:

    @ Stuart,
    If your mac is restarted & not running any apps and you are getting page ins/outs make sure there are no applications running in the background such as iTunes helper, iCal helper menu items dashboard widgets third party apps…
    They should be listed in the activity monitor window.

    It could just be the load that the OS places on your system. You may need more RAM, just keep an eye on the amount of paging and contact Applecare if it concerns you. You don’t say what version of Mac OS or the amount of RAM you have, but more should help. 2 – 4 GB should keep it running smoothly for basic tasks.

    PS the Leopard Activity Monitor specifies the paging in MB/GB units, Im unsure if the units are Kb, MB or GB in your comment.

    Nice article, it helps clarify what is going on with memory.

  8. admin says:

    Stuart,
    how much RAM do you have?
    Have you recently upgraded to Leopard?

    Wayne

  9. George says:

    MacBook (Generation 3)
    1GB RAM

    Free: 11.52MB
    Page in: 1218997
    Page Out: 736528

    Page in/Page out are increasing when I went to a website on FireFox.

    Applications in use:

    FireFox
    Safari
    Microsoft Word
    Mail
    Activity Monitor
    Grab
    Preview

    I also use a lot of Photoshop, iMovie and iPhoto.

    For me, it always seems like FireFox that is creating the whole mess. But I need it because of it’s tools that Safari doesnt have.

    But my main question is obviously, Do I Need More RAM??

  10. sarah says:

    My computer is super slow! My page in/outs are: 74840/25909 and ‘ins’ keep going up. Also the Free is 80 MBs. I just rebooted too? Reboot again? I was just running word and excel and I’m soooo frustrated.

  11. Ben D. says:

    “Free tells you how much free memory you currently have, the higher the better”.

    Actually you should never expect “free” to be high. See this article from Apple for more information: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1342?viewlocale=en_US

  12. Dunwell says:

    recently, I deleted some file and my ibook G4 wouldnt boot. I rebooted it with “Leopard” (it was Tiger before). now it is so slow I have towait onit to open some firefox pages. It is even doing things I didnt comand it to do.
    I have 512ram 1.33 processor and 60G HD. what can I do?
    Dunwell

  13. juelz says:

    I am confused because from your comments it seems as if my system isn’t doing what it is supposed to- my page in is 258.08 and increasing but my page outs is 0 and swap used is 0- is this good or bad? I have 1.04 memory used out of 2 GB but it seems as if an update im trying t o get for my microsoft office is not letting me download because of lack of memory. I am quite confused at this point

    • Athena says:

      Page ins SHOULD increase with every file you open – they occur when data is loaded into RAM.

      Page outs occur when you run out of RAM to be used.

      If your page outs are 0, that’s great! I’d say your download is failing for a reason other than RAM – perhaps hard drive space?

  14. bamakodaker says:

    I wonder if everyone is forgetting something very simple – what about HOW RAM is used? Is your desktop crowded with items using up that RAM? Keep everything IN your harddrive. ONLY have ALIAS’ on your desktop!~ Keep that RAM free.

    • admin says:

      The items on your desktop are still on your harddrive, not in RAM.
      RAM is the memory in your computer where things are loaded when you open them up.

  15. Aayush says:

    Hi,

    I have been noticing that my computer lately, slows down alot. Usually, I run Mail, iTunes, Safari/firefox (though safari makes it more slow), word and excel. I notice that my page in’s and out’s are quite high. Today I rebooted and immediately after reboot my page ins were 36,458.

    I am at a loss on what to do. Alot of times my page outs exceed my page ins after a day of running.

    I have a macbook 2.2Ghz core 2 duo with 1GB RAM and recently upgraded to snow leopard.

    I never faced this problem earlier, although i started having the problem in my leopard only thats why i upgraded to snow leopard.

    Please help

  16. Aayush says:

    will upgrade and try it out…………..thanks………….

  17. Eve says:

    Cheers for that, helped a lot.

  18. Zev says:

    my mac is slow i got 2 gigs of ram mostly use imovie ichat itunes and itenternet and windows,

  19. Nabeel Khan says:

    does anybody know what the conversion is for page ins & outs from Mb’s to just the large numbers you all have showing in your activity monitor?
    Mine shows the amount only in megabytes

    thanks

  20. HaWook says:

    My Page ins and Page outs are expressed in megabytes (960 and 325, respectively). How can I figure out the actual number?

  21. Roman says:

    Thanks for sharing, guys. Now I’m sure I need to upgrade with no doubts!

  22. charlie says:

    I have a imac osx 10.4.11 (so about 5 years old i think) it has a 2GHz intel core duo and a 1GB 667 MHz.

    When i run the folllowing I have 70MB free and 87660 page in and 43569 page out. Things get slow.

    firefox
    word
    photoshop
    finder
    macmail

    what im wondering is, is it worth me buying more memory or is my mac reaching the end of its life.i have been told by 2 people that they only have about 5 years in them.
    also if i move my iphoto library(and my lge amount of saved psd documents) onto an external then will this have any effect on the ram or is that totally seperate.
    any advice would be gteat.thankyou!!!

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